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Who changed the formatting of the games? Now it looks like shit. Nothing lines up properly anymore. Now it's not even using a monospace font, making it nearly impossible to get things to line up properly. Also, the new Games categories aren't accurate. Just because you're running a game in Wine doesn't make it proprietary (for example, Cube Explorer and I Wanna Be The Guy are open source). Also, if we're going to split the games into "Proprietary" and "Other" then the Steam section should be moved into the Proprietary section.
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== profile-sync-daemon  ==
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I would like to add profile-sync-daemon to this list (it symlinks browser profiles to tmpfs/RAM and writes back occasionally) under something akin to a performance subsection. Any suggestions?
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-- [[User:Galactus|Galactus]] ([[User talk:Galactus|talk]]) 14:34, 22 November 2015 (EST)
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:It [https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Profile-sync-daemon sounds like] it belongs under the [[List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software#Backup_and_sync|Backup and Sync]] section since it basically just uses rsync to make periodic backups of your browser profile. --[[User:Ebay|Ebay]] ([[User talk:Ebay|talk]]) 18:58, 25 December 2015 (EST)
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::I suppose I will create a miscellaneous section instead. People tend to have other things in mind when they think about backing things up and syncing them back. [[User:Galactus|— Galactus]] ([[User talk:Galactus|talk]]) 14:47, 26 December 2015 (EST)
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== Music Players ==
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While there are many [[List of recommended GNU/Linux software#Music Players|music players]], MPD is '''NOT''' one of them, it is a daemon for music player clients. So I'm thinking of making MPD and its clients in one separate category inside Music Players section, any objections? --[[User:Morpheus|Morpheus]] ([[User talk:Morpheus|talk]]) 02:50, 12 December 2015 (EST)
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::It is a bit messy when in its own section. Since MPD plays music in combination with an MPD client it is logical to include it in the Music Players section with a bullet list of MPD clients underneath it. I think it is neater and more compact this way. If you don't like it feel free to revert my edit. --[[User:Ebay|Ebay]] ([[User talk:Ebay|talk]]) 11:57, 25 December 2015 (EST)
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:::Well, mpd doesn't play its own music, it's clients are. And there are numerous MPD players, both graphical and terminal, the last two music players (GMPC and Sonata) is an MPD client. <small>[[User:Morpheus|<span style="border:1px solid black;color:black; padding:1px;background:#fff">&nbsp;Morpheus&nbsp;]][[User talk:Morpheus|<span style="border:1px solid black;color:white; padding:1px;background:#000">talk</span></span>]]</small> 19:05, 25 December 2015 (EST)
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::::Woops, I missed that. I put it back as a subsection now. --[[User:Ebay|Ebay]] ([[User talk:Ebay|talk]]) 20:13, 25 December 2015 (EST)
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:::Given that there exists more than one music server for Linux (ie. mpd, subsonic, mopidy, etc...), perhaps there should be a subsection for that. Also, i believe that the MPD clients should be moved to the regular music player section and it should just be noted in the description that they require an MPD server.
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== Not only for Lunix-likes ==
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Is it worth mentioning that a lot of this software will run fine on a BSD operating system? [[User:Keboler|Keboler]] ([[User talk:Keboler|talk]]) 12:48, 19 December 2015 (EST)
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::You could add a note in the intro that much of this software also works on BSD. Or you could make a new page "List of recommended BSD software" and add it on [[Recommended_software]]. Then you could just copy paste software which is compatible from this page onto the new one. Prism Break has a [https://prism-break.org/en/categories/bsd/ list of BSD compatible software], so it shouldn't be hard to fill out a new page. [[User:Ebay|Ebay]] ([[User talk:Ebay|talk]]) 21:29, 19 December 2015 (EST)
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== Consistency  ==
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For the sake of consistency I think we should use this format:
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*Link to internal pages in the first word of the program description rather than in the program title heading. If there is no internal wiki page then use an external link to the project home page instead. It is not practical to make wiki pages for every program listed here.
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*Start descriptions as a sentence, not a bullet point. Most entries already use this format. For example: "GIMP is a powerful image editor" not "GIMP - a powerful image editor".
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I went ahead and did this on the Windows and GNU/Linux pages. --[[User:Ebay|Ebay]] ([[User talk:Ebay|talk]]) 22:39, 24 December 2015 (EST)
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:I can agree with this. Also, please add profile-sync-daemon SOMEWHERE. [[User:Galactus|— Galactus]] ([[User talk:Galactus|talk]]) 08:18, 25 December 2015 (EST)
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::What is it? And in which category does it specifically fall under? <small>[[User:Morpheus|<span style="border:1px solid black;color:black; padding:1px;background:#fff">&nbsp;Morpheus&nbsp;]][[User talk:Morpheus|<span style="border:1px solid black;color:white; padding:1px;background:#000">talk</span></span>]]</small> 08:21, 25 December 2015 (EST)
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:::It's a daemon that moves your browser profile to tempfs (might use overlayfs if you have it, for superior performance) and syncs it back to disk according to a cronjob. Personally, mine does it every 15 minutes IIRC. I have no idea which category it falls under, if any (refer to the first topic of this talk area). [[User:Galactus|— Galactus]] ([[User talk:Galactus|talk]]) 17:10, 25 December 2015 (EST)
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::::You can add a Miscellaneous section and put it there. <small>[[User:Morpheus|<span style="border:1px solid black;color:black; padding:1px;background:#fff">&nbsp;Morpheus&nbsp;]][[User talk:Morpheus|<span style="border:1px solid black;color:white; padding:1px;background:#000">talk</span></span>]]</small> 18:57, 25 December 2015 (EST)
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:::::I will do this then. [[User:Galactus|— Galactus]] ([[User talk:Galactus|talk]]) 14:47, 26 December 2015 (EST)
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I want to point out that since nearly the inception of this page, the sections have been sorted alphabetically. I have found (and corrected) several instances of software added to the top of sections out of order.
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I will be removing the "minimalistic" sections and merging the listed software into the regular sections. It is far too subjective. If you want to indicate that something is minimialistic, then incorporate that into the description somehow (ie. "pcmanfm is a minimalistic file manager and desktop wallpaper manager"). I feel justified in doing this as I am the person who originally separated everything into regular/minimal applications and looking back on it, I believe it to be an error of judgement.
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== irqbalance and numad ==
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Where should I add them? They increase performance of SMP non-NUMA and NUMA systems respectively automatically.
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[[User:Galactus|— Galactus]] ([[User talk:Galactus|talk]]) 08:47, 11 January 2016 (EST)
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:I went ahead and created a performance section. Hope no one minds. :^] [[User:Galactus|— Galactus]] ([[User talk:Galactus|talk]]) 09:36, 11 January 2016 (EST)
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== Pale moon: proprietary open source license? ==
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May be confusing to some. What does it mean?
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== [[{{PAGENAME}}#Web browsers|#Web browsers]] and [[Web browsers]] ==
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In some places, the [[{{PAGENAME}}#Web browsers|#Web browsers]] section of this page
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is even more detailed than the linked [[Web browsers]],
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and there are browsers covered in either page
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that are not covered in the other.
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Would it be a good idea to merge the section into that page,
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and just leave a link to there? [[User:ClimbTheStairs|ClimbTheStairs]] ([[User talk:ClimbTheStairs|talk]]) 22:21, 2 January 2022 (CET)
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==Kmail==
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Is it really a good idea to recommend Kmail when the bug list reached epic proportions years ago? [https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=kmail;dist=unstable Debian Bug report logs: Bugs in package kmail] is quite severe but the [https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=kmail KDE] tracker shows 2456 bugs, some dating from 2003.
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[[User:Alien|Alien]] ([[User talk:Alien|talk]]) 22:17, 18 February 2022 (CET)

Latest revision as of 20:12, 8 March 2022

profile-sync-daemon

I would like to add profile-sync-daemon to this list (it symlinks browser profiles to tmpfs/RAM and writes back occasionally) under something akin to a performance subsection. Any suggestions?

-- Galactus (talk) 14:34, 22 November 2015 (EST)

It sounds like it belongs under the Backup and Sync section since it basically just uses rsync to make periodic backups of your browser profile. --Ebay (talk) 18:58, 25 December 2015 (EST)
I suppose I will create a miscellaneous section instead. People tend to have other things in mind when they think about backing things up and syncing them back. — Galactus (talk) 14:47, 26 December 2015 (EST)

Music Players

While there are many music players, MPD is NOT one of them, it is a daemon for music player clients. So I'm thinking of making MPD and its clients in one separate category inside Music Players section, any objections? --Morpheus (talk) 02:50, 12 December 2015 (EST)

It is a bit messy when in its own section. Since MPD plays music in combination with an MPD client it is logical to include it in the Music Players section with a bullet list of MPD clients underneath it. I think it is neater and more compact this way. If you don't like it feel free to revert my edit. --Ebay (talk) 11:57, 25 December 2015 (EST)
Well, mpd doesn't play its own music, it's clients are. And there are numerous MPD players, both graphical and terminal, the last two music players (GMPC and Sonata) is an MPD client.  Morpheus talk 19:05, 25 December 2015 (EST)
Woops, I missed that. I put it back as a subsection now. --Ebay (talk) 20:13, 25 December 2015 (EST)
Given that there exists more than one music server for Linux (ie. mpd, subsonic, mopidy, etc...), perhaps there should be a subsection for that. Also, i believe that the MPD clients should be moved to the regular music player section and it should just be noted in the description that they require an MPD server.

Not only for Lunix-likes

Is it worth mentioning that a lot of this software will run fine on a BSD operating system? Keboler (talk) 12:48, 19 December 2015 (EST)

You could add a note in the intro that much of this software also works on BSD. Or you could make a new page "List of recommended BSD software" and add it on Recommended_software. Then you could just copy paste software which is compatible from this page onto the new one. Prism Break has a list of BSD compatible software, so it shouldn't be hard to fill out a new page. Ebay (talk) 21:29, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Consistency

For the sake of consistency I think we should use this format:

  • Link to internal pages in the first word of the program description rather than in the program title heading. If there is no internal wiki page then use an external link to the project home page instead. It is not practical to make wiki pages for every program listed here.
  • Start descriptions as a sentence, not a bullet point. Most entries already use this format. For example: "GIMP is a powerful image editor" not "GIMP - a powerful image editor".

I went ahead and did this on the Windows and GNU/Linux pages. --Ebay (talk) 22:39, 24 December 2015 (EST)

I can agree with this. Also, please add profile-sync-daemon SOMEWHERE. — Galactus (talk) 08:18, 25 December 2015 (EST)
What is it? And in which category does it specifically fall under?  Morpheus talk 08:21, 25 December 2015 (EST)
It's a daemon that moves your browser profile to tempfs (might use overlayfs if you have it, for superior performance) and syncs it back to disk according to a cronjob. Personally, mine does it every 15 minutes IIRC. I have no idea which category it falls under, if any (refer to the first topic of this talk area). — Galactus (talk) 17:10, 25 December 2015 (EST)
You can add a Miscellaneous section and put it there.  Morpheus talk 18:57, 25 December 2015 (EST)
I will do this then. — Galactus (talk) 14:47, 26 December 2015 (EST)

I want to point out that since nearly the inception of this page, the sections have been sorted alphabetically. I have found (and corrected) several instances of software added to the top of sections out of order.

I will be removing the "minimalistic" sections and merging the listed software into the regular sections. It is far too subjective. If you want to indicate that something is minimialistic, then incorporate that into the description somehow (ie. "pcmanfm is a minimalistic file manager and desktop wallpaper manager"). I feel justified in doing this as I am the person who originally separated everything into regular/minimal applications and looking back on it, I believe it to be an error of judgement.

irqbalance and numad

Where should I add them? They increase performance of SMP non-NUMA and NUMA systems respectively automatically.

— Galactus (talk) 08:47, 11 January 2016 (EST)

I went ahead and created a performance section. Hope no one minds. :^] — Galactus (talk) 09:36, 11 January 2016 (EST)

Pale moon: proprietary open source license?

May be confusing to some. What does it mean?

#Web browsers and Web browsers

In some places, the #Web browsers section of this page is even more detailed than the linked Web browsers, and there are browsers covered in either page that are not covered in the other. Would it be a good idea to merge the section into that page, and just leave a link to there? ClimbTheStairs (talk) 22:21, 2 January 2022 (CET)

Kmail

Is it really a good idea to recommend Kmail when the bug list reached epic proportions years ago? Debian Bug report logs: Bugs in package kmail is quite severe but the KDE tracker shows 2456 bugs, some dating from 2003. Alien (talk) 22:17, 18 February 2022 (CET)