/ppg/ - Pen & Pencil General

4chan has for years had a Pen and Pencil General. This entry is a compilation of the insight and experiences from this general. Past discussions can be found on Desuarchive. This general goes back to 2013.

Pens

Ballpoint

• Uni-ball jetstream
• Fisher space pen

Gel

• Uni-ball 207
• Pilot g2
• Zebra sarasa
• Sakura gelly roll

Rollerball

• Pilot Precise V5
• uni-ball Vision Elite

Fineliner

• Sakura pigma micron
• Pilot Razor Point I/II
• Sharpie Pen (original)

Pencils

Wooden Pencils

With Erasers

Cheap

• Palomino Golden Bear

Mid priced

• Mitsubishi 9850

Expensive

• Palomino blackwing 602 or natural

Without Eraser

Mid priced

• Mitsubishi 9800

Expensive

• Mitsubishi hi-uni
• Tombow mono 100

Wooden Art Pencils

Cheap

• General Pencil Kimberly Graphite Drawing Kit

Expensive

• Mitsubishi hi uni art set
• Caran d'Ache Grafwood set

Mechanical Pencils

The world of mechanical pencils is still surprisingly innovative, with a huge range of options to suite anybody in the market. Options vary from drafting mechanical pencils to ones for general writing as well as niche choices that will suite any occasion.

Drafting pencils

Typically these have a metal outer body with knurling on the section for grip. The inner mechanism is commonly plastic however and is often a weak point, many drafting mechnical pencils malfunction or break due to a failure in the plastic components that make up much of the inner body.

Cheap

• Pentel p205

Mid priced

• Rotring

• 500
• Rapid Pro

• Pentel graphgear 500

High priced

• Rotring

• 600 -
• 800 -

• Pentel graphgear 1000

Writing mechanical pencils

There are self rotating mechanical pencils, AKA auto lead rotating mechanical pencils, that rotates the lead in such a way that the point is always sharp.

• Uni

• Kuru Toga
• Alpha Gel

Leads for drafting or writing

• Pilot Neox
• Pentel Ain Stein - Buy this if your in doubt or you don't care much about lead. It is the most consistently positive lead still in production and virtually unanimously highly regarded in all lead testing factors (Erasability, darkness, smear resistance etc.) commercially available almost anywhere.

Lead holder

• Staedtler Mars Techo 780c

Leads for leadholder

• Mitsubishi uni

Fountain Pens

Considerations & General Advice

Prior to purchasing your first fountain pen, you should try to ask yourself the following questions:

• How large or small of a pen would be comfortable for my hand, Material?
• what sort of writing characteristics am i looking for?
• User experience beyond overall writing

The first point sound obvious but can be tricky to get correct without physically being in a store. A larger pen will typically be easier to grip and relax wrist issues much more then a thin stenographers pen. Weight isn't generally an issue unless it's oversized or if the construction is all metal.

• Plastic quality increases with price.
• Pens with metal grips may cause grip slipping if it doesn't have knurling or flared stoppers.
• Pens made from ebonite or HBR has an odor that some find unpleasant.

Second point involves the writing itself. The nib takes center stage here together with the feed. A steel nib will always be as hard as a nail (unless otherwise stated) when in contact with the paper while gold nibs will have a slight softness that cushions your writing. Contrary to what is commonly told, a gold nib will not be smoother nor have magical penmanship increasing powers as the tipping material that actually contacts the paper, iridium, is the same as on steel nibs.

The feed regulates in ink flow coming out of the nib, the two polar ends being called "wet" (higher ink flow) and "dry" (low ink flow).

• A wet pen will typically feel smoother, and showcase inks better, although a direct consequence is that more ink is placed onto the paper. More ink = higher drying time / pools on paper
• A dry pen will typically have a pencil-like feedback when writing and channel less ink which may result issues with ink skipping.

Inks also come in "wet" and "dry" which can have a further multiplying effect.

Experience beyond writing involves how easy the pen maintenance/filling is and can extend to warranty as well has customer service of the company. As general maintenance practice, pens should be flushed with water every six month to clean out the feed though this frequency will change depending on situation. If you're changing inks or use certain inks such as permanent inks, they will need to be flushed with water sooner.

For the filling system considerations include:

• how well does it flush?
• how much ink it fills?
• how easy it is to fill?

Company warranty and overall customer service can be summed up as follows:

• Italian bad
• American generally good
• Japan is above average to very good
• Europe is hit or miss

Companies may not provide services for purchases made from non authorized retailers.

Recommendations

These pens are a good starting point. Japanese pens will be cheaper if you import directly from japan and if you're on a budget remember to factor in ink costs.

Bargain

Pens starting from $0 to roughly around $15, You get what you pay for in this category, plastic will feel a tad flimsy.

• JinHao

• 777 - A Lamy safari clone
• 992 - Pilot piera clone
• 100 "Centennial" - Parker duofold clone

• Platinum

• Preppy/Meteor - First choice for many when it comes to a cheap non-chink pen. Meteor is the Chinese market variation in a better plastic body.
• Plaisir - A Preppy but with a metal body.
• Prefounte -A slightly nicer preppy. Can be considered a cheaper alternative to the Plaisir or an upgrade to the Preppy.

• Pilot

• Varsity - A disposable fountain pen and the cheapest in this category. Surprisingly useful in certain situation but for most people the accumulating costs don't make it a worthwhile long term writing instrument.
• Kakuno - Arguably has a better price to quality compared to the Preppy as a first pen. Be forewarned that if you plan on using a converter, you will have to deal with Pilots infamously horrific CON-40 converter.
• Penmanship/Plumix/Pluminix - A Kakuno with differing section and body type.

Entry

Very good value for money with pens starting from $15 to roughly $75

• Lamy

• Safari/Vista/Al-Star - Pretty much the same pen but with different finishes (plastic, transparent and metal respectively). Triangular grip does not suit everyone.

• Twisbi

• Eco - Piston filling demonstrator. In fact it's the only piston filling option at it's price point. These pens are known to have crack or snapping issues after a few years of usage
• Diamond 580 - a better and bigger Eco with slight design changes.
• Vac700 - Unique filler at it's price point. A large pen with some comfort complaints from people.

• Pilot The Pilot Con-40 converter is horrifically bad.

• Metropolitan - Neat and classic looking pen. Timeless cigar shaped design, good nib and price makes this a solid safety choice. Considered sterile by some but don't let that turn you off from this dependable writer.
• Piera - Considered more well balanced then the Metropolitan, More comfortable for people with smaller hands but requires posting for larger hands. Added benefit of not looking like a child's toy like the Kakuno.

• Moonman

• A1 - Pilot Vanishing Point clone
• M2 - A clear acrylic eyedropper fountain pen. Very well regarded nib.

• Kaweco

• Classic Sport - A pocket sized pen, pretty much requires posting to be usable. The biggest pro is that it'll fit anywhere including shallow shirt pockets or small space.
• AL Sport - Scraping in right at the top, the Kaweco AL is a premium beginners pen. Well-built, Well-balanced, and portable, what more could you want. German quality and precision.

Mid tier

There is a huge step up here in terms of pen body material quality and overall feeling in your hand. one thing here is that outside of the Japanese brands you should seriously consider purchases from trusted retailers whom you can request a check on your pen for defective nibs. $75 to $300

• Lamy

• 2000 - "a good pen but it’s not a great pen. Useful but not special. A good buy for the price and if you were only ever going to own a single fountain pen, it would probably be your best pick."
• Dialog 3 - Considered by most to be of poor value but listed because it's the sole retracting competitor to the pilot vanishing point (that isn't the A1).

• Pilot

• Vanishing Point - Competes with the Lamy 2000 as the most popular pen to get as a first pen in this price range. It's biggest selling point is the retracting function. Very audible and distinct "click" sound in use.
• Pilot custom 74/92 - Transparent/semi-transparent pens, the 74 is the smaller size and uses Pilots Con-70 converter. 92 is a piston filler and is the more popular of the two, particularly well regarded.

• Sailor

• Pro Gear - Popular for the huge array of colors they produce as well as the LE's. Many weeb tie-in products if your into that kind of thing.
• 1911 - Same as the Pro Gear but with a different style and aesthetics

Fountain pen ink

Try to store your inks in a cool and dark environment, this is to prevent fungus and bacterial growth. Although inks have preventive measures such as a base pH (with Japanese inks) or fungicide (with most western brands) it is possible for them to exhibit fungal growth under the correct conditions, albeit very rare.

• Pilot

Pilot fountain pen ink is the standard line of ink pilot produces. Comes in blue, blue-black, black. WARNING: Document black and Drafting black are for dip nib only and should not be used in a fountain pen. 70ml in the standard jar but you can buy a 350ml bottle for drinking.

Pilot Iroshizuku is the premium line of inks. They were among the highest priced inks when first released but these days they're the cheapest japanese inks. Large variety of colors and shades to chose from. 50ml standard size jar with sample sized 15ml bottles.

• Sailor

Basic line is just called Sailor Ink with no frills. In blue, Blue-black, and black 50ml, same with the Pigmented inks (permanent).

Shikiori and Manyo are the sailor equivalent to the Pilot Iroshizuku. Shikiori come in 20ml only and Manyo in 50ml only.

In addition to the two lines, Sailor produces a large amount of other inks and inks not under Sailors name (Bungbox for example is made by Sailor). Any old reference to sailor Jentle inks should be ignored, it's a discontinued line with some of the colors absorbed by the Shikiori.

• Diamine

• Waterman

Most famed for it's Watermans Serenity Blue which together with Lamy blue hold the title of most well behaved, safest and low maintenance ink to use. Works in virtually any scenario. Come in 50ml and available at most retailers. Waterman also has a FAQ.