Talk:Windows 10

IG:NEUTRAL enforcement

While we all hate Windows, I have to remind you that you must not use "we" as in InstallGentoo Wiki, and presenting your bias as if the wiki directs you to.

I have to admit, while this does not break IG:FALSE, we do not condone that you use the wiki's name and using Template:Warning tag improperly, and not adhering to IG:NEUTRAL, I'll give you 3 days to change this article or I'll roll this back to revision 30865.

Morpheus talk 01:46, 14 March 2016 (EDT)

How about this:

Warning: There is a high likelihood that Windows 10 is compromised, even in a virtual machine. Research shows the possibility of the Windows 10 system being able to access the host system through bypassing the hypervisor. Windows 10 is highly malicious, and has been proven time and time again to not only datamine and steal user information, but it has been designed to do this. Continue at your own risk.

Bias means to disregard the truth to tip the scales in your favour. This new warning does no such thing and only warns the user of impending danger, so maybe we could replace the first warning with this one, and remove the second one (under installation). — Galactus (talk) 06:56, 14 March 2016 (EDT)

Couldn't there just be a section for Win 10 criticisms and have the warning say something like "be sure to read the criticism section first"?

And do you have a link that explains that hypervisor breakout? I'd like to read it. Thanks Mrsnooze (talk) 07:16, 14 March 2016 (EDT)

http://www.networkworld.com/article/2358488/microsoft-subnet/researchers-call-on-hackers-to-find-ways-of-exploiting-hyper-v-s-huge-attack.html — Galactus (talk) 07:24, 14 March 2016 (EDT)

Not to derail, but that link is specific to the Hyper-V hypervisor (as opposed to any hypervisor) and the flaw in Hyper-V could be exploited by any guest operating system that Hyper-V supports, including linux. So I agree that it's technically correct, but it's a little misleading. Mrsnooze (talk) 08:04, 14 March 2016 (EDT)

Fair enough, I misread what was said. Though in my defence, I wasn't the one who wrote that warning, so you might have to ask that person, or google it yourself. — Galactus (talk) 12:17, 14 March 2016 (EDT)

Hm.. that's reasonable. Morpheus talk 09:25, 14 March 2016 (EDT)

"Impending danger"? Yes, of course. But, "The InstallGentoo wiki strongly, strongly recommends not installing Windows 10."? No. I prefer that I don't do any intervention to articles and edits, but an opinion that one shouldn't install something should never be voiced in the name of InstallGentoo. Morpheus talk 09:25, 14 March 2016 (EDT)

I fixed the article. Is it okay now? — Galactus (talk) 12:15, 14 March 2016 (EDT)

I think we should add more sources regarding this spying matter, but it is preferable if one gets it from unbiased websites. Morpheus talk 12:45, 14 March 2016 (EDT)

There are two major ones right at the beginning of the article 'major concerns'. I added them myself, and they have the most up to date information as it stands. All others are outdated and rumour based, there's no testing involved. — Galactus (talk) 12:51, 14 March 2016 (EDT)

Some sources from slashdot:

Telemetry / Phoning Home

Even when told not to, Windows 10 just can\u2019t stop talking to Microsoft

How To Keep Microsoft's Nose Out of Your Personal Data In Windows 10 (not a total solution)

Can You Disable Windows 10's Privacy-Invading Features? (not totally)

Microsoft Telemetry Collection, Explained

ZDNet Writer Downplays Windows 10's Phoning-Home Habits

Even With Telemetry Disabled, Windows 10 Talks To Dozens of Microsoft Servers

Microsoft Monitoring How Long You Use Windows 10

Windows Telemetry Rolls Out

Windows 10 Still Phones Home With Data In Spite of Privacy Settings

How to get a grip on your files, data that Windows 10 phones home to Microsoft