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Is this article even needed when we already have Anonymising Yourself and DNSCrypt? It's terribly worded and an absolute mess. It would be quicker to write it from scratch at this point, or outright mix-and-match those two articles.

-- Galactus (talk) 07:24, 6 December 2015 (EST)

I've made a redirect page for DNS page to Anonymising Yourself#DNS. --Morpheus (talk) 09:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)

Google DNS

Do you genuinely believe privacy conscious users should use google's DNS?

— Galactus (talk) 01:03, 5 March 2016 (EST)

No, but for anons living in censored countries it's still a step up. As much as I distrust google, they did enable revolutions via their dns.
Privacy conscious anons are probably vpnning or torring anyway, which automates alternative dns selection.
How about we add a sentence/warning/something to note that google isn't to be fully trusted, rather than exclude them completely? Mrsnooze (talk) 01:10, 5 March 2016 (EST)
Why though? OpenNIC has hundreds of servers and actually automates the selection process for the less technologically inclined, with the added plus that they don't keep logs, don't sell your information, and so on, so forth. Some of them even support DNSCrypt by default. — Galactus (talk) 01:15, 5 March 2016 (EST)
8.8.8.8 is much easier to remember than an opennic ip, and if opennicproject.org is poisoned in the user's current dns, they can't get to the website to find an opennic ip.
Also, I meant automate as in "i've never heard of this thing you call dee ehn ess yet i am using a good one!". Google DNS is also worldwide, as you showed opennic was. 8.8.8.8 doesn't redirect to a single server, as can be shown with a quick DNSLeakTest.
I feel like we're both trying to protect different anon skill levels. As you rightly say, google isn't to be trusted, and /g/entoomen understand this and desire a solution like dnscrypt. It's important that we have a page that discusses google's shortcomings and explains advanced stuff like dnscrypt. At the same time, less experienced anons who need to avoid censorship also need a solution. I think it's good to have a quick and easy step forward for them, with the hope that they'll continue on and discover more advanced stuff.
So I'm happy to have google dns listed last and/or listed with a warning, but I'm not happy to remove it completely and force novice anons to take the most advanced solution which they may not be able to do. Mrsnooze (talk) 01:33, 5 March 2016 (EST)
Alright, a warning is an okay compromise. — Galactus (talk) 01:35, 5 March 2016 (EST)
Looks good! Mrsnooze (talk) 02:22, 5 March 2016 (EST)