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== The Spam Problem ==
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Jesus christ, why do we need Google Captcha. Besides training evil AIs, it is a nuisance of a service that doesn't work right. --<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  23:50, 30 December 2018 (EST)
 
Jesus christ, why do we need Google Captcha. Besides training evil AIs, it is a nuisance of a service that doesn't work right. --<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  23:50, 30 December 2018 (EST)
  
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:::Here's another issue. I, a logged in user, have to perform a captcha to submit an external link. Wikipedia doesn't even do that. There are other captcha services, btw. --<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  21:00, 19 March 2019 (EDT)
 
:::Here's another issue. I, a logged in user, have to perform a captcha to submit an external link. Wikipedia doesn't even do that. There are other captcha services, btw. --<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  21:00, 19 March 2019 (EDT)
  
Another issue with your spam-trackers, bannanafish [[File:2019-03-19-191634 784x483 scrot.png]] --<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  22:18, 19 March 2019 (EDT)
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Another issue with your spam-trackers, bannanafish. It filters the word V-A-C-C-U-M-E [https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/File:2019-03-19-191634_784x483_scrot.png problem image link] --<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  22:18, 19 March 2019 (EDT)
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The bots seem to only make accounts and edit user pages. A primitive approach would be to autoban users that try to edit/create userpages before contributing something else to the wiki. As in, new (real human) users need to contribute to some page on the wiki before they are allowed to make their own page. If I'm being retarded let me know. --[[User:Owsum|Owsum]] ([[User talk:Owsum|talk]]) 09:37, 5 May 2019 (EDT)
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::That was true, but it is no longer. The bots are now making pages containing Dental Advice. It seems that changing your userpage ''is'' a sign of a bot, but the deletion process is not automatic. It seems manual. --<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  21:31, 13 September 2019 (CEST)
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[[File:blood_for_the_blood_god.png|right|200px]]
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I just ended sooooo many shitposting careers. If you got deleted, congratulations! You failed the Turing Test.
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We should either do *something* about this here or move somewhere else that doesn't have a spam problem. Maybe hosting the wiki on Github is more appropriate.
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--[[User:Yuki|Yuki]] ([[User talk:Yuki|talk]]) 22:27, 9 May 2019 (EDT)
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:An issue has become with the newest Spam Measure. You said that if you edit your user page, you fail the localized Turing Test. It isn't working. These spam accounts are editing their user pages over 20 times and are not banned. --<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  23:51, 31 May 2019 (EDT)
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The latest captcha is too easy. The majority of answers are simply "Yes" with only one or two being something that actually differs. What makes you think bots simply wont keep trying "yes" as an answer over and over again? They obviously already are as we have thousands of misinformation articles on dentistry all of a sudden.--<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  22:21, 30 September 2019 (CEST)
  
'''Running list of ideas:''' 
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===Running list of ideas:===
 
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam $wgSpamRegex] - doing this already   
 
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam $wgSpamRegex] - doing this already   
 
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StopForumSpam StopFormSpam] - worth looking into, will likely have to disable cloudflare   
 
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StopForumSpam StopFormSpam] - worth looking into, will likely have to disable cloudflare   
 
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit ConfirmEdit] - doing this already with Captcha NoRecaptcha, may be worth going back to questy captcha with a lot more questions...   
 
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit ConfirmEdit] - doing this already with Captcha NoRecaptcha, may be worth going back to questy captcha with a lot more questions...   
 
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Antispam Clean Talk] - looks similar to StopForumSpam but possibly not updated for 1.3.1
 
* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Antispam Clean Talk] - looks similar to StopForumSpam but possibly not updated for 1.3.1
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* Follow these instructions to import Wikipedia templates [https://www.ryadel.com/en/how-to-add-wikipedia-mbox-templates-to-your-own-mediawiki/ here] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_Wikipedia_infoboxes_tutorial here]
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== Radio ==
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We have a page for multiple forms of media, including [[TV Series]], [[Movies]], and [[Music]]. Should we add a page for [[Radio]]? Science-Fiction radio had existed for decades before television classics such as ''The Twilight Zone'', and often the Sci-Fi shows of the early tv audience were actually rewritten radio scripts (Such as ''The Twilight Zone'' episode ''[[Wikipedia:The Hitch-Hiker (The Twilight Zone)|The Hitch-Hiker]]'' was first aired on the radio program ''The Orson-Welles' Show'', and later-on the radio show ''Dimension X''. Other notable programs include ''The Shadow'', the aformentioned ''Dimension X'', ''The New Adventures of Sherlock Holmes'', ''The Adventures of Superman'', and many, many others. --<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  01:49, 30 March 2019 (EDT)
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== Recommended Software ==
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"[[Recommended software]]" line is currently under the software tab.
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However this link is to category of recommendations that are mostly hardware.
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It appears that the main purpose was to link to the 4 pages that are the lists for recommended software for android / GNU+Linux / OSX / Windows.
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I propose that, like the "[[GNU/Linux ricing|GNU/Linux]], [[Windows ricing|Windows]] and [[Android Ricing|Android]] ricing" line, the "[[Recommended software]]" line should be changed to something similar to:
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"Recomended Software for [[List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software|GNU/Linux]], [[List_of_recommended_Windows_software|Windows]], [[List_of_recommended_Android_software|Android]] and [[List_of_recommended_OS_X_software|OS X]]"
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--[[User:Owsum|Owsum]] ([[User talk:Owsum|talk]]) 02:36, 16 April 2019 (EDT)
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== /drug/ ==
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Would it be ok to begin a drug page?--<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  07:07, 5 July 2019 (CEST)

Revision as of 21:21, 30 September 2019

The Spam Problem

Jesus christ, why do we need Google Captcha. Besides training evil AIs, it is a nuisance of a service that doesn't work right. --Se7en(1) (talk) 23:50, 30 December 2018 (EST)

I absolutely agree, but look at Recent Changes, we still have some spam getting through... without it, the wiki (and db) would be inundated with spam. If you have a better option/idea to fight spam on MediaWiki please I am open to suggestions...--Bananafish (talk) 12:54, 31 December 2018 (EST)
Here's another issue. I, a logged in user, have to perform a captcha to submit an external link. Wikipedia doesn't even do that. There are other captcha services, btw. --Se7en(1) (talk) 21:00, 19 March 2019 (EDT)

Another issue with your spam-trackers, bannanafish. It filters the word V-A-C-C-U-M-E problem image link --Se7en(1) (talk) 22:18, 19 March 2019 (EDT)

The bots seem to only make accounts and edit user pages. A primitive approach would be to autoban users that try to edit/create userpages before contributing something else to the wiki. As in, new (real human) users need to contribute to some page on the wiki before they are allowed to make their own page. If I'm being retarded let me know. --Owsum (talk) 09:37, 5 May 2019 (EDT)

That was true, but it is no longer. The bots are now making pages containing Dental Advice. It seems that changing your userpage is a sign of a bot, but the deletion process is not automatic. It seems manual. --Se7en(1) (talk) 21:31, 13 September 2019 (CEST)
Blood for the blood god.png

I just ended sooooo many shitposting careers. If you got deleted, congratulations! You failed the Turing Test. We should either do *something* about this here or move somewhere else that doesn't have a spam problem. Maybe hosting the wiki on Github is more appropriate. --Yuki (talk) 22:27, 9 May 2019 (EDT)

An issue has become with the newest Spam Measure. You said that if you edit your user page, you fail the localized Turing Test. It isn't working. These spam accounts are editing their user pages over 20 times and are not banned. --Se7en(1) (talk) 23:51, 31 May 2019 (EDT)

The latest captcha is too easy. The majority of answers are simply "Yes" with only one or two being something that actually differs. What makes you think bots simply wont keep trying "yes" as an answer over and over again? They obviously already are as we have thousands of misinformation articles on dentistry all of a sudden.--Se7en(1) (talk) 22:21, 30 September 2019 (CEST)

Running list of ideas:

  • $wgSpamRegex - doing this already
  • StopFormSpam - worth looking into, will likely have to disable cloudflare
  • ConfirmEdit - doing this already with Captcha NoRecaptcha, may be worth going back to questy captcha with a lot more questions...
  • Clean Talk - looks similar to StopForumSpam but possibly not updated for 1.3.1
  • Follow these instructions to import Wikipedia templates here and here

Radio

We have a page for multiple forms of media, including TV Series, Movies, and Music. Should we add a page for Radio? Science-Fiction radio had existed for decades before television classics such as The Twilight Zone, and often the Sci-Fi shows of the early tv audience were actually rewritten radio scripts (Such as The Twilight Zone episode The Hitch-Hiker was first aired on the radio program The Orson-Welles' Show, and later-on the radio show Dimension X. Other notable programs include The Shadow, the aformentioned Dimension X, The New Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, The Adventures of Superman, and many, many others. --Se7en(1) (talk) 01:49, 30 March 2019 (EDT)

Recommended Software

"Recommended software" line is currently under the software tab. However this link is to category of recommendations that are mostly hardware.

It appears that the main purpose was to link to the 4 pages that are the lists for recommended software for android / GNU+Linux / OSX / Windows.

I propose that, like the "GNU/Linux, Windows and Android ricing" line, the "Recommended software" line should be changed to something similar to:

"Recomended Software for GNU/Linux, Windows, Android and OS X"

--Owsum (talk) 02:36, 16 April 2019 (EDT)

/drug/

Would it be ok to begin a drug page?--Se7en(1) (talk) 07:07, 5 July 2019 (CEST)